[Info] Blup and training tips

This thread is intended to help those who are having problems training/blupping their horses and to help streamline any training methods which possibly need tweaking.
If you have any training programs that have worked for you, please feel free to post. Knowledge shared is knowledge learned default smiley ;)

BLUP - Best Linear Unbiased Prediction

Why is BLUP so important?
BLUP is a genetic indicator. It plays a role in reproduction because the BLUP of the parents has an impact on the potential of the foal at birth. The higher the blup, the better quality foals will be reproduced, therefore the best quality foals will be produced from 100blupped parents.

Basics of blup - any horse
~ Horse to have top 3 GP skills bolded. This is done by training, rides and entering competitions that coincide with those skills.
~ Horse to win 20 comps - any combination
~ Horse to be at least 10 years old.

In terms of points gained for blup:
All foals are born with around -100blup. This means they need to gain a full 200 points to achieve +100blup
~ Your horse gets 130 points for completed training in its best three gp skills, this includes rides and comps., the skill must go bold before this requirement is met.
~ 40 points for reaching the age of 10
~ 30 points for winning 20 competitions.
All these points are gained over time a little each day until your horse reaches 100

Training tips for specific breeds are welcome
dragoniys
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Help me please I just can not seem to get wins on this versiondefault smiley xd I enter the lowest skill level comps,I always try for -20 category...
$isha-horsecrazy$
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What I do is do complete the training rides that gain in the top 3 of your horses skills (trot, speed, dressage for French Trotters) and they are finished by 3yrs old if you have a Nyx Pack/CTimer.

Then I compete in all the competitions until I don't get any more gain. After I have all comp gain I finish the top 3 training bars and then the rest of the bars and rides. If you still don't have enough comp wins for the howrse to be BLUPed, enter more comps. If you enter the easiest comps you can, you will have more of a chance to windefault smiley ;)
johnny
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does anyone know a good timetable for training arabains? default smiley :)
starlight101
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Starlight: yes but I ain't giving it to you as it's the one I use when blupping with DSA.

Tip: feed start of day when you have a lot of energy it gains more energy. Strooke end of day, lower the energy higher energy gain you get from strokes.

I have a set routine for everyday
1h30mins pasture (gets morale and energy up)
Grooming (morale further up)
Lessons
Feeding 5.5kg 2.25grain
Trainning (5hours, 8 for dressage) rides and comps until little energy is left (bur still the time zone)
Stroking
Carrot
Grooming
wild 'n' free
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By the way rides and comps is after training as in when training bar is full
wild 'n' free
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thanks dragoniys
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That would habe been nice if you could have told us the trick, but thanks anyway. My best blup is +80, which isn't very highdefault smiley :'(

Thanks dragoniys for openning thisdefault smiley :-))
modelhorsemad
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Tips on helping BLUP.. My tip would be to not train in top3 skills first. Training in dressage and speed can be really helpful. All competitions use dressage. ( I also usually train in speed- as its useful for trot/gallop/jump races).. Often if you train in their top skills first then it can be difficult when entering competitons related to those skills, as you are going up against other horses who may even have higher skills than your horse, or that have better 'supporting' skills- say dressage and speed for eg- if talking jump races. So if you can get the dressage and speed up on your horse first, you are going to stand a better chance(no guarentees though of course!).

Putting your horse in the box for a couple of hours each day(I usually do it at the end of the day- depending if I have time in the horses day left) can help you find a tub of grease, which will help a little for comps.

Also competing your horses with low health or morale, will probably means they won't win. Health and morale- at the time of entering comps, have an effect on competition results.

As Wild stated, feeding when you horse has more energy, gives more energy. Stroking when energy is lowest, gives more energy. ( I feed near to the start of the day- after lessons- as then you are not waisting energy gain(by feeding straight up when energy may be 95-100%.. If I do lessons first, which now uses up around 30 in energy, then I can give drink and feed and energy will be up around 90 again- all approximates here- so I can then get on with the rest of the day training/rides comps ect).
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P.S. dragoniys, I think this and the EC topic are brilliant ideas..something I've thought for awhile would be great.. so thanks for opening this up for players.default smiley :)
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*blows bubble* were you talking to me model
wild 'n' free
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Yep, I was. I can understand why you wouldn't tell usdefault smiley ;)
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starlight101
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Wow, it works. Thanks Wi
D. I now have -18 with a horse only 5 years old!default smiley :o
modelhorsemad
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You talking to me, again.

By the way that's not my schedule that's mwa daily routine
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By Retired breeder, 5th July 2011 11:37:52
Ive followed horsestar's advice and my horses have been winning.
By Retired breeder, 5th July 2011 14:57:37
After foal games I tend to do
- trot rides in 1hr lots to boost sped and dressage skill until no gain
- speed and dressage training until completed

Comps enter the lowest level you can find and empty is beneficial
- trot comps to boost speed and dressage until bold ( 10 - 15 comps)
- X Jumps to boost Stamina and Jumps until no gain (approx 15 comps)
- steep slope approx 4.5hrs per day until no gain
- stamina and jumps training until no gain
with gallops/ trot you can do dressage comps or indiviual gallop and trot comps until trot bolds
- gallop rides 5hr lots per day until no gain
- gallop training until done

Don't forget to do the lessons and companion training to boost skills

Susan ES
Yes, I typed it in wrong Wilddefault smiley :$
Thanks all, and Wild, what do you mean by mwa? (I am not very good at working those things outdefault smiley :$)
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By Retired breeder, 13th July 2011 05:21:36
does anyone have a +100 BLUPing table for arabs that they can tell me?
By Retired breeder, 13th July 2011 08:48:27
If you're using a Nyx Pack, actually don't train in dressage first. Train in gallop and trot, and get some dressage wins. This will be easier if you have a horse who max in those skills, such as the Fjord or the Thoroughbred. Then you are free to train in dressage and speed, where if your horse maxes in those skills (which is a majority of breeds) you are still free to do show jumping skills... and for those who have good speed and dressage but high jumping as well and you didn't get many in dressage or show jumping comps... you will dominate in the last category, Cross Country. default smiley ;) default smiley (y)
By Retired breeder, 13th July 2011 08:51:51
And just so you know, it is perfectly capable of achieving 100 BLUP with just an M. Arms by 10 years. default smiley ;) Though WoY is probably the most helpful 1 pass item when BLUPping, despite not giving any competition bonus, it gives extra lesson gain and say for a Paint, it would give you a massive boost when you go for those wins in SJ/Gallop/Trot comps... plus it gives you double the amount of competitions you can enter at half the price.

That's about it default smiley :d If you need any more help with other breeds I may be able to help you default smiley :p
By Retired breeder, 13th July 2011 11:03:56
Also, so long as the horse has above 70 BLUP (which means that if you have top 3 skills bolded + horse is over 10 years and no comp wins, you can still get it) - You still get a GP gain. default smiley ;)
*blinks at Paint* really. does anyone know how to use filler
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By Retired breeder, 14th July 2011 10:31:34
Fillers are what I need now default smiley :(
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