[Info] Blup and training tips

This thread is intended to help those who are having problems training/blupping their horses and to help streamline any training methods which possibly need tweaking.
If you have any training programs that have worked for you, please feel free to post. Knowledge shared is knowledge learned default smiley ;)

BLUP - Best Linear Unbiased Prediction

Why is BLUP so important?
BLUP is a genetic indicator. It plays a role in reproduction because the BLUP of the parents has an impact on the potential of the foal at birth. The higher the blup, the better quality foals will be reproduced, therefore the best quality foals will be produced from 100blupped parents.

Basics of blup - any horse
~ Horse to have top 3 GP skills bolded. This is done by training, rides and entering competitions that coincide with those skills.
~ Horse to win 20 comps - any combination
~ Horse to be at least 10 years old.

In terms of points gained for blup:
All foals are born with around -100blup. This means they need to gain a full 200 points to achieve +100blup
~ Your horse gets 130 points for completed training in its best three gp skills, this includes rides and comps., the skill must go bold before this requirement is met.
~ 40 points for reaching the age of 10
~ 30 points for winning 20 competitions.
All these points are gained over time a little each day until your horse reaches 100

Training tips for specific breeds are welcome
 
dragoniys
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Please bear in mind when posting tips that some breed gp stats, especially some of the older breeds, may differ slightly between the International server and the regional ones therefore tips from the International server may not work here default smiley ;)
dragoniys
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I can't get my mare past 87.52 BLUP, anyone able to lend a hand?
Revolution

She's a purebred AT, over 50 years, has completed her training and her rides and has won over 40 first places.
The skills that are bolded on her Genetic page don't match the the skills that are supposed to be the best for the breed though?
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RevolutionMare wrote:

I can't get my mare past 87.52 BLUP, anyone able to lend a hand?
Revolution

She's a purebred AT, over 50 years, has completed her training and her rides and has won over 40 first places.
The skills that are bolded on her Genetic page don't match the the skills that are supposed to be the best for the breed though?


Hi,

You need to bold out stamina and jump default smiley ;) as they are part of the top 3 genetics.
Finish either mountain rides, forest rides or cross country comps and you should be all done default smiley (y)
king of jazz
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I did, and now her blup is stuck at 99.65?
All of her skills are bolded and I've finished all the comps and rides
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RevolutionMare wrote:

I did, and now her blup is stuck at 99.65?
All of her skills are bolded and I've finished all the comps and rides


Look's like you have her at 100 BLUP now, well done!
Sometimes something so simple like aging the horse will get that last little bit of the blup finished default smiley ;)
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i going to post this here as i didnt know where to ask but what breeds are best for Grand Prix Purebred Breeds? or part-breed and how do you all train up your grand Prix horses if you guys could post a list of breeds and breed crosses that Seem to do well i will be thankful
Thanks
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It ultimately comes down to the Skills of the horse (be it purebred or cross-bred).

Currently for Classical Grand Prix competitions the top/best horses are;
Cross Country - Tekes
Trotting - French Trotters
Show Jumping - Hanoverians
Dressage - Nokotas (closely followed by Knabs)
Galloping - Thoroughbreds

Western;
Cutting- Tekes
Western Pleasure - Tennessee Walkers
Reining - Thoroughbreds
Trail Class - Nokotas
Barrel Racing - Arabian (closely followed by Mustangs)

Training;
Training a horse for Grand Prix has a couple of requirements to ensure you get the most amount of possible skills out of your horse. This includes;
~ Horse boarded in a + .25 skill gain Equestrian Centre
~ Water of Youth at 2yrs for your horse
~ Complete all Rides (inc; Beach focusing on max gain for primary skill)
~ Complete all Training
~ Enter competitions till all skills Bolded/stop gaining skills
~ Complete Mission daily till 25yrs

Note with Beach rides and some breeds such as Nokotas, you'll need to change the skill to decrease to Speed or Stamina so you do not decrease Gallop (as Noks excel in Dressage, you'll want to keep their Gallop as high as possible)

Adding items such as Nyx Pack will complete training faster, prevent you having to use tons of APs and make your horse immortal (which you'll want after getting max skills! you wont want all that hard work to degrade after 25 years age).

Poseidon Pack, Bonus Pack (or one of each bonus equipment), Medusas Blood & Golden Apple (or other coat) for maximum bonuses to skills

Lastly and very important, give your horse 20 Pieces of Cloud (or Piece of Cloud Pack - and use all 20). It will reduce your horses age and give your horse more days to wake up and gain additional skill

**If i have forgotten anything that another can point out, my apologies**
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hi I was wondering what competitions would be able to help my paint mare to blup ( she is classical) thankyou in advance

hayley.03
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hayley.03 wrote:

hi I was wondering what competitions would be able to help my paint mare to blup ( she is classical) thankyou in advance

hayley.03

gallop races as that does the to[ 3 skills for paint i think
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Bumping, so topic doesn't disappear from the forum default smiley ;)
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What is the average age most players have a horse fully blupped by? Just for me to compare so I can know if I should change what I'm doing.
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zaxby36 wrote:

What is the average age most players have a horse fully blupped by? Just for me to compare so I can know if I should change what I'm doing.


It varies on the breed. Some breeds will take an extra 1-2 years because they will have to do both rides to bold the top 3 skills, whereas some breeds will only need one set of rides done.

I usually find that horses who need both rides will have the top 3 skills bolded and 20 wins by the age of 6-7 years, depending on how easily they win comps and if you stay in one EC. Swtiching EC's will decrease that average.

Of course, that's not fully blupped so fully blupped would be 10 years unless you have the VIP perk.

If you account for the amount of time rides and training take you can almost make up a Should-Be-Blupped-By [this tinme] kind of estimation. By 2yr6mnths one of the rides should be completed, and the next one would take an extra 2 years (if you're still boarded in the same EC). That leaves it to 4yr6mnths Training will also take 2-3 years, depending on what skills you train, and then an extra 8 months to enter a minimum of 20~ competitions.
Breeds who need the most work will more likely take 7 years than ones who need less work which would be around 6 years.
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By Retired breeder, 10th January 2018 03:11:48
Hey!
I was wondering what was an easy to follow BLUPing schedule or Purebred Spanish Horses and any tips about what is best for them?
Thanks,
Retired breeder wrote:

Hey!
I was wondering what was an easy to follow BLUPing schedule or Purebred Spanish Horses and any tips about what is best for them?
Thanks,


Keep in mind their top three skills: Dressage, Speed and Stamina.

An easy BLUPing schedule for these horses would probably be something along the lines of:
1. Complete both mountain and forest rides.
2. Enter in gallop or trot competitions (more likely to get wins)
3. Once you have gained your 20 wins from competitions, train stamina, speed and dressage.
4. This should make Speed and dressage bolded, so ender in cross country comps to help bold stamina.
5. once that is done age your horse to 10 years and they should have 100 BLUP.

Hope this helps,
bondi.
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By Retired breeder, 9th February 2018 11:07:55
Hi there! I was wondering if anyone had a blupping schedule for thoroughbred horses on the Australian version.
By Retired breeder, 19th February 2018 21:15:41
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@unicornih153

Foal Games (optional)
No rides
When the horse turns 2, train top three skills to 450
When the horse turns 3, make the horse's specialty classical
Enter Gallop comps until no more gain
Train until top three skills are 640
Enter rookie Trot comps to get 20 wins
Train horse's top three skills
Age to 10
By Retired breeder, 19th February 2018 21:43:34
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Oh, unicornh153, you can just bold the top three skills and then enter rookie trot comps because your horses have less GP.
Retired breeder wrote:

Hi there! I was wondering if anyone had a blupping schedule for thoroughbred horses on the Australian version.


The top three skills of the TB are

Gallop

Speed

Dressage
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By Retired breeder, 4th March 2018 11:25:44
Hi,
I breed Brumbies. However, I have, as of yet, not managed to BLUP a single brumbie! I get really stuk on the competitions. I tend to specialise in western. The closest I've got to BLUPping a Brumbie is with Hummingbird, Shes narly got 20 comps. She's specialised in Western and I focus on barrel racing. Does anyone have and tips/hint tricks they are willing to share?I assume because they're a fairly new breed they are quite far behind in skills and GP compared to other breeds, so they're easily beaten in comp. I do try to stick to brumbie-only comps, but they arent always avaliable
Retired breeder wrote:

I get really stuk on the competitions.
Just a general tip about getting wins with lower GP horses is to use plenty of fillers, and ask your friends to fill. I have found that by entering the horse I want BLUP in empty competitions and then getting 2 friends to fill the comp with horses I know have lower skills is the only sure way of getting wins, every other way is like a lottery.

If you don't have 2 friends ready to fill for you, sou can look at the public pages of horses you see a lot in comps, and if any have lower skills than your you can then target those competitions to 'target stomp'. Though be nice and try to avoid stomping other people bluping.
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By Retired breeder, 7th March 2018 23:33:40
Thank you Mesotablar! I never thought of using friends to fill comps for me default smiley :)
By Retired breeder, 3rd May 2018 03:39:09
I would like some help on BLUP Knabstruppers specifically.?

It my horse called Blue.
Retired breeder wrote:

I would like some help on BLUP Knabstruppers specifically.?

It my horse called Blue.


Hi Poppi2040,
Firstly, thats a lovely Golden Apple coat you chose for Blue default smiley :)

Now down to Bulping Blue. As a Knab, her best skills are Dressage, Trot & Jumping (closely followed by Gallop). As you've chosen Classical riding, so you can look to doing Dressage competitions with her.

To bulp her from here you have a couple of choices. Some players will complete Rides (mountain & forest) and Training and then enter their horse in their main event but with the lowest % difficulty of the main skill. Or another way is to maximize the top 3 or 5 and enter low difficulty competitions in their lowest skill (ie, Cross Country/Stamina is Blue's). Whilst competing, you might want to add other bonuses (such as tack, to increase her overall skills in competitions).

To Bulp fully, you will need to have maximized Blue's top 3 skills through Rides (mountain & forest), Training & Competitions, and reached 10 years of age.

Tips: Entering another lower skilled horse of yours into the same competitions as the horse your trying to bulp will increase your chance of winning & bulping quicker! It also takes 60 Ageing Points to reach 10 years with an equine!
simbela
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How do i do my horse i come from International server is bit differ from International server?
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BlueStar wrote:

How do i do my horse i come from International server is bit differ from International server?


Welcome to AU!

I see you have 2 Thoroughbred's. They excel in Gallop (so try to stick to Classical - that said if you go into Western, Reining works too), and possibly do well in events where Dressage and Speed (their next best skills), are required. As always, be sure to complete Rides, Training (minimum top 3 skills) and bolding with Competitions (inc 20 wins) to fully Bulp.

Hope this helps default smiley :)
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