[Info] Blup and training tips

This thread is intended to help those who are having problems training/blupping their horses and to help streamline any training methods which possibly need tweaking.
If you have any training programs that have worked for you, please feel free to post. Knowledge shared is knowledge learned default smiley ;)

BLUP - Best Linear Unbiased Prediction

Why is BLUP so important?
BLUP is a genetic indicator. It plays a role in reproduction because the BLUP of the parents has an impact on the potential of the foal at birth. The higher the blup, the better quality foals will be reproduced, therefore the best quality foals will be produced from 100blupped parents.

Basics of blup - any horse
~ Horse to have top 3 GP skills bolded. This is done by training, rides and entering competitions that coincide with those skills.
~ Horse to win 20 comps - any combination
~ Horse to be at least 10 years old.

In terms of points gained for blup:
All foals are born with around -100blup. This means they need to gain a full 200 points to achieve +100blup
~ Your horse gets 130 points for completed training in its best three gp skills, this includes rides and comps., the skill must go bold before this requirement is met.
~ 40 points for reaching the age of 10
~ 30 points for winning 20 competitions.
All these points are gained over time a little each day until your horse reaches 100

Training tips for specific breeds are welcome
 
dragoniys
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Tara224- ironically, your horse would make a wonderful cutting horse.
luthien tinuviel
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Luthien Tinuviel wrote:

Tara224- ironically, your horse would make a wonderful cutting horse.

Thanks luthien Tinuviel i thought so too but wanted someone else's opinion
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By Retired breeder, 11th March 2016 22:39:59
What are Arabians best for?
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What are Arabians best for?

Western cutting i think or barrel racing one of them
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By Retired breeder, 12th March 2016 07:51:49
what are TBs best for
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what are TBs best for

Classic Gallop and when you need wins enter them in trots and i think in western as well reining i think
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By Retired breeder, 14th March 2016 01:32:55
what are Shetlands best for?
Retired breeder wrote:

what are Shetlands best for?


I find that shetlands excel in Cross Country when I'm BLUP'ing them but their skills match up with Show Jumping. default smiley :)
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By Retired breeder, 15th March 2016 07:01:12
thanks queeny.default smiley :)
By Retired breeder, 24th March 2016 00:12:53
What are Brumbies best for?
Retired breeder wrote:

what are TBs best for


I've been almost solely breeding TBs since I started playing (pre 2012), and all of the ones I own are classically trained. I've only just started western-style training with other breeds in the last couple of months, so I can't help anyone there.
Traditionally for my horses, their wins have depended on what kinds of skill levels and gains I have bred into that specific horse AND their parents, - as well as their excellence ratings and total GP.

So to break that down for you all, my horses get their wins mainly from gallops. However! if they can't get 20 wins by the time their skill gains per competition are maxed out, (or I've finished training their top 3 skills) I have to enter them into other competition types to blup them. (This is especially true for horses with an excellence rating of about under 25 stars).

The victory rate in other competitions will definitely vary from horse to horse, but it generally goes like this for mine: (highest rate) show jumping/dressage > cross country > trot (lowest rate)
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What competitions are Shagya Arabians good at competing in? Thanks c:
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By Retired breeder, 2nd May 2016 14:03:42
greenwolf1998 wrote:

What competitions are Shagya Arabians good at competing in? Thanks c:
Mainly Cross Country default smiley :)
what would gypsy vanners be good at
Thanks
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By Retired breeder, 28th May 2016 11:24:26
What is the point of having 100 blup? does it affect breeding?
By Retired breeder, 28th May 2016 13:54:21
Retired breeder wrote:

What is the point of having 100 blup? does it affect breeding?

The higher the Blup of the parents, the more the foals GP (genetic potential) improves compared to the parents' GP.
Retired breeder wrote:

What is the point of having 100 blup? does it affect breeding?

It also has effects on the IBS as well. Definitely make sure the parents are 100blup if you really want to improve the skills of the next generation, I had to learn this the hard way when I got lazy and bred a mare at 88BLUP. default smiley (y)
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I might not make much sense but I thought I'd my method for BLUPing, this way has always gotten me 100BLUP by 10 years old. I breed paints, keep in mind they are easier to blup than others because they excel in speed and dressage. I also always do lessons for max skill gain, but that is optional:
1) Finish the type of ride your EC offers (try to avoid beach ECs), start as soon as your horse hits 1yr 6mths, for example I board my horses in mountain ECs, because those rides give speed
2) Do not do too much training while you enter comps, if you do too much training you will not be able to enter rookie comps, which are key to getting your wins. As soon as your horse reaches 3 yrs, enter the comp that boosts their best skills. For example, paint horses need to bold speed, dressage, and gallop, so enter them in as many rookie gallop comps as possible.
3) Start entering your horse in comps that takes into account their worst skill, but still uses their best skill (for example, paint horses do not have good trot, but trot races use speed and dressage as well, so enter them in trot races). Your best best is to have a selection of filler horses (horses with little skill) to fill your comps in. Try to have a look at the horses already registered to see if they are more skilled than your horse, if they are, the comp is not worth entering.
4) Keep repeating step 3 until you have gotten 20 comp wins, for me my horses usually have all their 20 wins by the time they are around 4yrs. (some other breeds that don't have good dressage are much harder to BLUP because getting wins is very difficult)
5) Once you have gotten your 20 wins it is pretty straightforward from there, just finish the rides, complete training in top 3 skills, age to 10, and you're done!
If you need help with a certain breed, or are having trouble feel free to PM me, but no means am I an expert, this is just a method I've developed and I find works very well
ravera
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Somw tips for Tb's? Mainly getting the wins without needing to fill default smiley :) thanks!
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Tips for Gypsy Vanners?? I was thinking of entering them in trot and XCountry comps but not sure if this is working for others or what everyone else does with their GV's?
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gijjjer wrote:

Tips for Gypsy Vanners?? I was thinking of entering them in trot and XCountry comps but not sure if this is working for others or what everyone else does with their GV's?


cross country comps are your best bet. default smiley (y) try filling them with fillers too.
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By Retired breeder, 19th June 2016 12:27:38
How about Arabians I can't decide English or western and which comps would they be great at
Retired breeder wrote:

How about Arabians I can't decide English or western and which comps would they be great at


I do cross country to gain some skills, but for the wins, I enter them in gallop.
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By Retired breeder, 20th June 2016 09:22:53
Hi I need help how do I blup an Arabian quickly how do I get the 20 wins quick thanks in advance

~ponygirl~
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Hi I need help how do I blup an Arabian quickly how do I get the 20 wins quick thanks in advance

~ponygirl~

Bonuses help a lot for getting winnings. But it better to send arabians horses in trot and gallop races, because trot and gallop skills are lower than speed and dressage ones)
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