[Info] Blup and training tips

This thread is intended to help those who are having problems training/blupping their horses and to help streamline any training methods which possibly need tweaking.
If you have any training programs that have worked for you, please feel free to post. Knowledge shared is knowledge learned default smiley ;)

BLUP - Best Linear Unbiased Prediction

Why is BLUP so important?
BLUP is a genetic indicator. It plays a role in reproduction because the BLUP of the parents has an impact on the potential of the foal at birth. The higher the blup, the better quality foals will be reproduced, therefore the best quality foals will be produced from 100blupped parents.

Basics of blup - any horse
~ Horse to have top 3 GP skills bolded. This is done by training, rides and entering competitions that coincide with those skills.
~ Horse to win 20 comps - any combination
~ Horse to be at least 10 years old.

In terms of points gained for blup:
All foals are born with around -100blup. This means they need to gain a full 200 points to achieve +100blup
~ Your horse gets 130 points for completed training in its best three gp skills, this includes rides and comps., the skill must go bold before this requirement is met.
~ 40 points for reaching the age of 10
~ 30 points for winning 20 competitions.
All these points are gained over time a little each day until your horse reaches 100

Training tips for specific breeds are welcome
 
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Brumbies would be best in Western, since they have terrible dressage. All of the Classical comps use dressage, which will hurt a Brumby in the long run.
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By Retired breeder, 3rd September 2015 10:12:28
Just a question regarding fillers - can we only use no more than one of our own horses as filler?

I'm having a very very hard time bulping my brumbies! Just can't seem to win any comps and I'm entering when they arent fully trained yet to get easy comps but a lot of the other horses in the comps - mostly barrel race - are super high skilled anyway I don't understand this!

Never had such a hard problem bulping before default smiley :s ugh.
By Retired breeder, 3rd September 2015 10:59:32
You can only enter 2 of your own horses into one race, so you can add the horse your BULPing and one other filler and that's it. You can combat this by getting friends to add fillers to the competitions for you. default smiley ;)
By Retired breeder, 4th September 2015 03:21:50
I'm BLUPping foundation Knabstruppers, having a problem with higher horses entering the comps. I always have their name as GP BLUP (#/20) with # being how many wins they currently have. Any better way to list that I'm BLUPping a lower horse to avoid this trouble?

Don't be fooled by my senoirity, I have over 1550 days on the US server.
Unfortunately, naming a horse 'BLUP'ing!! (#/20)' can put a target on your back. Fillers are your best friend for BLUP'ing foundies; if you can, find 2 other people to help you fill up your comps. Also, don't be stingy with the bonuses- those can make or break you.
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By Retired breeder, 9th September 2015 02:21:36
What is best for QHs Western or classic?
Classical- they're skill set of St/D/J makes them ideally suited for XC comps.
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By Retired breeder, 16th September 2015 02:46:21
What is best for donkies?
By Retired breeder, 16th September 2015 07:51:02
Retired breeder wrote:

What is best for donkies?


Just do the same thing as you're doing with the normal horses.
Retired breeder wrote:

What is best for donkies?


I'm not quite sure what you mean by 'best'. Could you elaborate a little bit more please? default smiley :)
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By Retired breeder, 18th September 2015 10:50:11
Never mind...
what is good for Percherons, Shires and Australian ponies?
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Again, you've gotta be more specific. What do you mean by 'good' or 'best'? Best way to train them? Best specialty?
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okay, for Australian ponies.... what is their best skills, speciality and what comps would they excel at?
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An Aussie pony's top 3 skills are Jumping, Speed, and Dressage. If you ever want to check out what the top 3 skills are on a horse, just go to the Genetics tab and whichever skills have the highest number are it. Given that they're good in J, Sp, and D, Aussie ponies would do well in SJ comps, and would be able to hold their own in XC as well.
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so, what is the best training schedule for them? to train them and then do beach rides to get their jump skills up because trot is there lowest? if that makes sense
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There isn't really a "schedule" to follow. I would do forest rides first, then train in D and Sp; enter SJ comps to bold D/get 20 wins, and then do mountain rides to bold Sp. Once Sp is done, train in J to bold, and age to 10 if necessary.
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what speciality is good for irish hunters please
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Western, speifically reigning comps. You could also do dressage comps with them, but their skills are best suited for reigning.
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Luthien Tinuviel wrote:

Western, speifically reigning comps. You could also do dressage comps with them, but their skills are best suited for reigning.


Thanks Luthien Tinuviel
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By Retired breeder, 28th November 2015 23:55:17
I understand how to BLUP, but does anybody have advice for BLUPping a Shetland foundie?
By Retired breeder, 28th November 2015 23:56:05
What speciality is best for a Shetland?
Retired breeder wrote:

I understand how to BLUP, but does anybody have advice for BLUPping a Shetland foundie?


I would use a classical speciality.

Do all rides, train in speed and dressage, and then enter in show jumping competitions until speed and dressage are bolded.
Train in jumping (jumping should now be bolded as well) and enter cross country competitions until you have all wins.

Note: The above schedule would work best with high skilled shetlands, for a foundation you'd need a lot of luck to win competitions with any method. You could try entering some gallop/trot competitions for a few wins as well.
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And fillers! Tossing in a filler will definitely help your foundie get some wins in.It'll go even faster if you can organize a BLUP party with 2 other friends/people.
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By Retired breeder, 30th November 2015 21:06:42
This discussion is relevant to me at the moment with my 500-600GP Lippizans - I can't seem to catch a break and win any competitions. There's almost no breed only comps, and the ones I do enter are quickly filled with 2000GP horses default smiley :( Why do they make this so difficult? My first Lippizan reached 25 with winning only 4 competitions its entire life default smiley :(
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